tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6740538823923443635.post351679748017513303..comments2023-11-03T01:28:44.624-07:00Comments on My Masonic Apron: The Penalty BoxMr. Apronhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00176310548094283074noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6740538823923443635.post-85324914426868197622009-11-15T12:32:46.434-08:002009-11-15T12:32:46.434-08:00Hey man, this is an excellent post and you've ...Hey man, this is an excellent post and you've articulated your opinion incredibly well. You already know my opinion on it, but I can definitely understand you POV and I do agree with you that the deterrence factor is almost a non-entity.<br /><br />Great post!Radiogaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01215052014232915461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6740538823923443635.post-58997294563833362582009-11-12T21:18:43.624-08:002009-11-12T21:18:43.624-08:00I don't think that it's realistic to think...I don't think that it's realistic to think there is rehabilitation for murderers. We are mammals. Once you get a taste for something, as they say. Basically, we should just put them down. Just my opinion.adrienzgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00189335015566616247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6740538823923443635.post-50571152106748845592009-11-12T20:04:50.800-08:002009-11-12T20:04:50.800-08:00Well, Jay just gave me an easy way out of somethin...Well, Jay just gave me an easy way out of something which would have taken me a while to write. I completely agree with Jay. Jay has allowed me to go and make breakfast 15-20 minutes earlier than I would have. Death for a murderer, is the easy way out. Not every single time (because some of them are so psychologically damaged that they don't really know better), but most of the time. <br /><br />And now for a nice warm breakfast.Karinahttp://suddenunexpectedtwist.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6740538823923443635.post-79465243204147594262009-11-12T14:45:10.655-08:002009-11-12T14:45:10.655-08:00I don't think death is much of a punishment at...I don't think death is much of a punishment at all, not being a religious sort of chap. I don't see there being fire and brimstone or any kind of final reckoning. Only the nitrogen cycle.<br /><br />I think, if anything, it's an easy way out for the offender -- it's just nothing. More often it becomes about revenge, rather than "justice", and really the only people who it hurts are the often entirely innocent family of the offender. It doesn't seem to achieve anything.<br /><br />With imprisonment, in theory, there is a chance for the offender to make something of it. Not like licence plates for cars, but it affords them the chance of redemption (an odd choice of word for a militant agnostic, I know). You hear of reformed gang members and the like making something of their life, trying to teach the youth and dissuade them from making the same mistakes. However rare it is.<br /><br />You also hear of victims families saying that they didn't get the peace they expected when murderers are executed, and other examples of people forgiving.<br /><br />Besides any of that, I like the question "If You All Had a Lion As Your Pet What Would You All Have Done?". I like the use of the past tense. What <i>would</i> you have done. Because the answer is most likely: "get eaten by the lion by accident one day".Come Back Brighterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06265267087716795746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6740538823923443635.post-44120520118035250622009-11-12T14:06:22.884-08:002009-11-12T14:06:22.884-08:00I don't think it's about the penalty/punis...I don't think it's about the penalty/punishment at all.<br /><br />It's about the justice, I think.<br /><br />You don't do jail/capital thing for the criminal, you do it for the victims, right?<br /><br />And more importantly: justice is really, really hard to mete out. It's so crazily subjective. Man slaughter is worse than rape? (And so on.)<br /><br />My main concern is actually convicting the wrong people. The whole system is a bit broken like that.<br /><br />Would be much better to reform society, rather than throw people in jails or kill them.Sebastian Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06450717426716164401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6740538823923443635.post-83397798454129056152009-11-12T12:41:05.291-08:002009-11-12T12:41:05.291-08:00Wow....I was appalled to see that you wrote on dea...Wow....I was appalled to see that you wrote on death penalty as I myself participated in a forum discussion on the subject on Tuesday, AND had to talk about it with my students in French 203 (I am not choosing my topics - unfortunately...)<br /><br />So I feel like it's all around me lately.<br /><br />As a French citizen I am opposed to the death penalty but understand and respect the opposite camp. The more I think about it, hear people's arguments and the more confused I am. May sound totally weak and immature but that's the truth. I see the good in both sides. And we could talk about it endlessly. Still at the end of the day - when the question is being asked, I do say that I am against.<br />Hard to build a solid argumentation though.Aurore Labenheimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02733985072615848198noreply@blogger.com